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December 10, 2025 at 7:29 pm #6385
BobLinMN-3
ParticipantThe Machine grinds you down!
A whole new meaning to pre-emptive medicine.
https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/12/10/socialized-medicine-for-the-win-n3809696
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December 11, 2025 at 3:53 am #6428
BigBalls
ParticipantOh shet, you’re back in version 3.0! Good to see you posting.
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December 11, 2025 at 6:33 am #6437
DaystalkerParticipantMaybe Kevin should read this and be thankful he was able to get a new hip instead of driven out to Newfoundland and left for polar bear food.
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December 12, 2025 at 3:15 pm #6490Participant
Thanks, BB
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December 13, 2025 at 7:10 pm #6579Participant
Finally got around to finishing the article after interruptions and starting over a few times. I don’t know much about socialized health care but I am interested and concerned about the health care here in the US. Health care in Canada doesn’t matter to me, and we are certainly not adopting their system. Being the beneficiary of the very valuable gift of health, my concern today is with costs, as in monthly premiums. Why does a healthy person with no illnesses or medications have to pay $1700 a month for health insurance. Thankfully I can’t comment on care during hospital visits, can anyone else say if in hospital care is good or bad?I think hospitals killed people during Covid by putting them on ventilators. I also think we get ripped off by insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies. Obamacare is an attempt to create a national plan, which I think we need. I’m not sure how I would tweak it but I know this about insurance companies, they are not patient driven, they are profit driven. Additionally, it seems to me that the focus of our healthcare system is to keep sick alive but not to heal them. Like immigration health care is complicated too. Complex problems need complex solutions to be permanently addressed and fixed. We don’t need concepts of a plan, we need a well thought out plan. Not holding my breath.
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December 19, 2025 at 10:32 pm #6918
GTrojan2
ParticipantAs I understand it, the ACA was initially based on the idea of spreading the cost of healthcare over the entire subscriber base. What happened is that by spreading it that way it made the cost of coverage to those who were young and healthy so expensive they didn’t subscribe and went uncovered, thereby contributing greatly to the problem we see today. You’re paying $1700 a month and all you need is catastrophic coverage, but you’re not allowed to limit your coverage like that under the ACA.
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December 14, 2025 at 1:04 am #6600Participant
BB, The official name for Obama Care is the Affordable Care Act. That was supposed to bend the cost-curve down. Well, ACA has gone up, since its inception, at 4 times the rate of inflation. What’s going on? Blue Cross is non-profit and tax exempt (except in CA where Newsom had it taxed anyway). There policy is not to have revenues exceed outflow by more than 4%. If that happens subscribers get a refund. Why doesn’t everyone go with Blue Shield? Is it medicine, itself, that costs so much? David Brooks, certainly no Conservative and appearing on a decidedly left-biased PBS, stated that insurance companies aren’t making excessive profits, relative to industry in general. He thinks hospitals and docs charge too much. How much of it is defensive medicine? Is it technology? UCLA School of Med had a nuclear reactor to make short-lived radioactive particles to inject into the blood streams of patients; it wasn’t manufactured by Mattel. Other factors must be at play.
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