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    • #9714
      Java
      Keymaster

      Quite possibly one of the worst texts ever on the wild West was the obsession that Mookie Betts sucks.  No player in baseball history has ever gone from being a gold glove outfielder to being an All-Star level Gold glove level middle in fielder.  All while winning back to back world championships.    I wonder whose nose  Manny Machado is picking today?

       

    • #9906
      PasadenaTrojan
      Participant

      No Liar. I didn’t say he sucks. You said Manny sucks which is objectively false. I said I don’t think Mookie is better than Manny. So if Manny sucks Mookie must suck. It’s your logic not mine.

      Btw Mookie is hitting .260 in his Dodger post season career. Which is 40 points higher than his Boston days. Career .250 in the PS. Is that great?  No WS MVPs either. In many chances btw.

      Mookie hit .258 this year in regular season. I see why you are talking about defense.

      Mookie played SS better than I expected. He’s pretty good there. He’s not great.

      I mean I think one day you will stop arguing with me. Since you keep losing.

      • #10032
        Java
        Keymaster

        Mookie says he can’t hear anything you’re saying over the noise his hardware is making

        Manny Machado was a shortstop who failed and became a third basemen  he has one two gold gloves the last of which was 11 years ago he has not won any with the Padres

        Manny has won three silver slugger awards. All with San Diego. Showing he has abandoned being all around player for being a hitter

        Manny‘s power totals have decreased each of the last four seasons. The latest being his lowest hr production.  Since 2014

        Manny is a career 279 hitter.  With modest power, few stolen bases  And the last few years of war hovering around three    He has made virtually no impact on his team in the standing

        Mookie Betts is the only player that I know of who has gone from being a gold glove outfielder to a gold glove level shortstop. It is unheard of for a guy with his experience to make this move and for him to be a plus level defender at this point in his career, much less one of the top short stops is unbelievable   So to recap, Manny moved from shortstop to an easier position while Mookie moved from right field to shortstop the toughest position inside the lines

        But of course you can’t see that  by the way, Manny has a career on base average of 339 and Mookie has a career on base average of 369.  Mookie  OBA with the Dodgers each year has been .366, .367, .340, .408, .372, and 326,  Only last year while he was playing Gold glove level shortstop Only that year was he ever below Manny‘s OBA  Mookie’s career batting average is 290. manny  is 279.

        Mookie war Is higher than mayonnaise each of the last several years. Averaging 6.15 the last four years.

        It’s pretty obvious who the better player is. It would be the one with three world championships with the Dodgers and one with the Red Sox. It would not be the one who has been a loser at the end of every season of his entire career.

        I know you love knocking Mookie’s postseason career. But he batted 296 with an OBA of 378 when they won in 2020. He batted 290 with an OBA of 387 When they won in 2024. He was obviously a major contributor in both cases. He had four home runs in the postseason in 2024. 16 RBI since you think those are so important.

        Want to know what Manny bat it last year while you were making fun of Mookie‘s .229 batting average? Post season? Manny batted .100 with an OB a of .250. Want to know what he batted before that? .179 with an OBA of .179. Previous to that .271 in 2022 because his team didn’t even make the playoffs in 2023. In 2020 Manny batted .154 in the playoffs with an OB a of .185.  Pretty hilarious that you actually knock Mookie Betts postseason hitting and then try to claim that Manny Machado is a better player when his postseason performance has been absolutely treacherous

         

    • #10037
      PasadenaTrojan
      Participant

      Manny and Mookie are both 32.

      manny has about 300 more hits, 100 more HRs and about 200 more RBIs. Do those count? Or you more of a walk kind of guy? Your baseball coach tell you to lean into it like Coach Buttermaker did to Rudy Stein? Makes a lot of sense now that I think of it.

      oh yeah. Manny made an AS game last year and you know who didn’t. More sucking stuff. 🤦‍♂️

       

      • #10039
        PasadenaTrojan
        Participant

        As for Mannys abysmal post season numbers that doesn’t seem defensible. Just like Mookies.

        see how easy that is. It’s called the truth.

        You call 0-20 “baseball” and let’s talk position switching and GGs. I call it sucking.

      • #10042
        Java
        Keymaster

        The numbers don’t lie.  Manny was hidden for his defense. Mookie stepped up.

        total

        numbers mean nothing.  That’s a product of games played.  Mookie has more of everything than manny.   Better postseason performance higher career batting average higher career OBA and I mention it because that is valued more than batting average. How funny that you revert to a stat that nearly everyone has degraded. Just like RBI. 1975 called and they want their mentality back

        Mookie has a better war.  Mookie plays a much more valuable defensive position and has moved from the outfield that is flat out remarkable unheard of unprecedented   Manny’s defense has fallen off and he’s just turned into a fat hitter, barely above average one at that

        we all know that Manny is a horrible teammate and a horrible person. There are actually memes and studies online showing Manny’s five worst incidents on the field. Mookie is a notorious for being a great teammate and a great person and a great competitor. Manny is known for being awe all know that Manny is a horrible teammate and a horrible person. There are actually memes and studies online showing Manny‘s five worst incidents on the field. Mookie is an notorious for being a great teammate and a great person and a great competitor. Manny is known for being a quitter. A.k.a. Johnny hustle

         

        man, he’s never won anything his entire career. Mookie has four world championships, more gold gloves, more silver sluggers.   and he’s a better career playoff performer. And has performed better the last couple of years.

        you have been beaten every which way and sideways. Bobby Brown gave Whitney Houston less of a beating than what you’ve received here in public

        I wish I could think of an insult, dumb enough for you to understand

         

      • #10051
        PasadenaTrojan
        Participant

        The argument was that you said he sucks and I said you’re an idiot. As usual you lost the argument day 1 Rudy (Stein).

        Dude has almost 2100 hits. Almost 400 HRs. You hate him. I get it. Doesn’t make you right.
        Imagine a youth baseball coach saying a 12 year MLBer sucks. You’re so fing delusional wrong it’s scary. Hes top 5 in active hits leader and the youngest one on the list.

        put Mookie on the orioles and the padres and he has zero rings too. Without question.
        Imagine thinking someone’s super power is they walk. At 5’8” it’s a tight strike zone. A true Rudy Stein.

         

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