The Caleb Williams Experience

[Oydesseus]

You all miss this? Did CLR coach him at all?

https://x.com/_marcusd3_/status/1979973442813239575?s=46

[Oydesseus]

[Butkus51]

Bruddah Pasadena, hmm where did you get CW QBR?  Here is ESPN current QBR and RTG (passer ratings).  QBR score range 0-100, 50 average, RTG score range 0-158, 79 average.  Caleb is doing alright as a QB, Chicago is a bad team.

Caleb Williams, #21, QBR 52.0, RTG 92.9, overall QBR is average.

Jaxon Dart, # 31, QBR 61.9, RTG 89.3, overall QBR is average.

Sam Darnold, # 7, QBR 72.5, RTG 109.2, overall QBR very good, top 10

Drake Maye # 8, QBR 76.8, RTG 116.4, overall QBR very good, top 10  I always thought highly of Drake playing at UNC.  He was a 4* HS QB

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player

 

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[Oydesseus]

You are right to look at the whole season.

my screen shot was just last weeks game. He didn’t play well in the win

[BigBalls]

Come on now PT. Cherry picking stats to bury a Trojan ?

[Java]

PT cherry picking?   To bolster a regimented mocked in position?

why.  Never.

I’m shocked.   Shocked I tell you

[Java]

He picks and chooses stats that support his already determined point.  He is not a very honest person.  Sooner you figure that out the easier it is to deal with him

 

let Me summarize him

Chick sports.  Kyle schwarber.  Manny Machado. Sam Darnold.  Adoree Jackson and the former usc guy playing center for the cavaliers?   Awesome.  Conspiracy political theories?   Even better.

Shohei ohtani?   Mookie Betts?   Caleb Williams?  Anyone trying to be even minded or balanced politically?   Sucks donkey dongs.

and there’s no in between and no amount of evidence will change it.

[Oydesseus]

Lmao. If you truly believe that I don’t know what to tell you.

I clearly posted the dudes last game line. That is current timely and factual.

I know he didn’t play well in game 1. The MNF game. And then again in the Troy Aikman controversy game. So didn’t think I was cherry picking. In fact I maybe able to prove I wasn’t.

 

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[Java]

The bears are 4-2.  Wonder when the last time they were .667?

think they are looking to cut or trade him after his year 3 or 4 partner his contract?

me neither.

[Oydesseus]

Fair. Happy for the Bears. And happy for CW. I don’t ever root against Trojans. Even traitor/eboli virus Reggie Bush.

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[Butkus51]

Most fans fault the QB on bad plays or games.  But, I know that Wr’s, TE’s and Rb’s many times are reasons for QB bad plays.  They slack off and do not run, hard, sharp routes getting separations or find openings for the QB.

PT you posted a HL tape of CW scrambling for dear life and almost throwing an IT.  U wanted to show that CW is a bad QB.  What I saw his Wr’s and TE running lazy routes where by the DB’s were all over them.  Nah, that bad play was not CW fault, he avoided a strong pass rush, extending time to throw a completion.  If his Wr’s and TE found an open spot and ran hard, CW would have found them and completed the pass.  OK, maybe he forced it and should have thrown it away.

CW is a special QB who has it all, athletic, very good arm, good field general.  If he played for a good team, his stats would be off the charts…

I remember a story of the great Johnny Unitas told by his players.  His Wr’s, TE’s and RB’s would run hard, crisp, sharp routes, get separation or find the open spot, cause if they did not Unitas would give them a strong tongue lashing.  They feared him…  Cheers

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[Oydesseus]

I’m a big believer in TRYING to evaluate all

aspects of a play or a player. In fact I saw INTs by Sam where his WR stopped running or a dot went through there hands and a bunch of folks on TV or on this Board would say Sam with 2 picks today. 🤦‍♂️

I will watch the CW play again to see the routes and effort of his teammates. CW has 1st round picks all around him. In NYC, Sam had Robbie Anderson and Braxton Berrios and TEs who couldn’t catch a cold. CW has Oduze DJ Moore Loveland and Kmet. Just night and day .oh yes Ben Johnson vs Adam Gase too.

my evaluations of CW arnt personal. They are truthful. No more, no less. I’m far less impressed with him than most.
And far more impressed with Darnold and Dart than most.
right now I’m sitting in tall cotton. We shall see how Long it lasts. But I genuinely want CW to do well. FWIW

[Butkus51]

Bruddah you say you saw Sam throw an IT, but why did you not post it?  Nah, you like Sam and Jaxson mucho and only post their good plays.  Dat’s not fair evaluation.  Why don’t you post the good plays of CW?  Got the answer, you just do no like him.

You do good work and one of the key posters at WW, but sometimes you rub people the wrong way (CW fans).  I’m a big fan of CW, and also Sam Darnold and Jaxson Dart.  I will never put a USC player down, ever.   Heck, I would post visual stuff here, but I’m not registered to X and instagram…  Cheers

[Oydesseus]

Yes I am one of the key posters on this Board. I agree. Im one of 4. You too of course!

My comment on Darnold int’s was a trip

down memory lane. When he was in the Big Apple he would have bad things happen and sometimes it wasn’t really his fault. But a QB gets 100% of the blame. Especially a white QB. Fwiw. When I say that I’m talking about woke sports media folks on espn or Nick Wrong. Not Joe Public.

• I want CW to succeed because he’s a Trojan. I don’t really respect his painting the nails shtick. Especially the FU part. Does that make it tougher? 😂🤦‍♂️ I think it’s incredibly weird and I stopped being a vested “fan”. I’m a strong believer in Having standards and drawing lines and that crossed mine. He also didn’t win a Rose Bowl or a P12 CG for us so I didn’t like that either. I was happy he won the Heisman for USC but he was no Reggie or Vince Young
  Sam made massive memories for me. The Rose Bowl. The P12 CG. MVP of both btw. The Texas OT thriller. The asu thriller. My main memories of CW are crying on his Moms shoulder, painting his nails and pulling his hammy against Utah. beating Notre Dame his 1st year was nice of course!! That was prob his best game as a Trojan. That Won him the Heisman just like Carson’s record setting night against the Irish late in the season.

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