Kyle Tucker is a dodger

[Java]

4 years $240 million.

I told you guys early on about this name.

I was only off by $140 million.

my lord the world has gone crazy and I’m the only sane one left

[PasadenaTrojan]

Dodger world has gone crazy. Apparently their TV deal is very lucrative and unique amongst baseball due to McCourt breakup. Didnt know this. Do you? So it’s not all just funny accounting/deferred salaries.

Good player. Not $240M good. 🤦‍♂️

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[Java]

Correct.  Except that this tv deal only has 10 years left on it and it widely recognized as an outlier.

I had heard la had about $300 million a year on the deal.  Maybe that was free and clear money.

but yes.  I knew this was the secret sauce.  But in reality it’s been the case since 2011 or 12. LA could’ve been doing this 10 years ago. So it is interesting that only recently they’ve opened up the Cash faucets and everybody’s gone crazy

 

and whoever you quoted above, I agree with completely. Good player not great player. To me he’s Cody Bellinger. He’s a guy who is known for being lazy at times not necessarily loving the game, giving half an effort only putting full effort out during a contract year,  Chicago let him go without even trying to retain him.

I mean think about this at best you are going to get a 263 hitter with 22 to 25 home runs and if you do, he’s going to tear up the contract and walk away he’s going to walk away from 60 million a year. oh and if he turns into Michael Conforto? Which he easily could because 260 can turn into 230 pretty easily 22 or 25 home runs can turn into 15 or 18 very easily especially with pressure and a new park  so what if that happens? He sticks around and LA gets to pay $60 million a year for four years for that kind of production

meaning the kind of production that they thought about cutting Max Muncy to save 10 million for this year.

yeah I can’t say that I understand this one  And no one needs to talk to me about marketing opportunities or how big he is in Japan or Korea or Singapore nope this is an American guy who’s going to add nothing to the marketing power of the Dodgers  straight up, cash play here

 

I think what they’re counting on is that he’s going to be gone in two years and the Dodgers have about 3 to 5 outfield prospects that they feel good about and I think that they feel like the kids are a year or two away so I believe their hope is that one of them will work out this guy will leave and they will have a replacement at that point

 

Having said that as smart, as I think I am, I play checkers and Andrew Friedman clearly plays three level chess

 

[PasadenaTrojan]

You knew about it but never mentioned it? 🤔 and why not? being serious. I’ve never known about it til today. I have heard about Shohei’s deferred hundreds of millions since he signed. And how it was creative and even if tricky, legal. This info is a whole new wrinkle.

Does it matter if they didn’t use before? They are using it now in the present in a massive way.
$300m annually is still a lot of money. and 10 years is still a long time.

no team should be able to afford $60M a year mistakes. No team. The fact that they can is why they paid it. No other team can. That’s a bigger problem. And for a good but far from great player. Come on. That’s also bad for baseball. I know you go to one game every other year but many folks go way more often then that and prices are only going to go up

[Java]

well yeah. It’s like 8 billion over 25 years.  And to be honest I didn’t think they had to share any of it.  Local tv revenue isn’t subject to revenue sharing I thought.  Nor radio.   And I think they were trying to do Japanese tv or inrwnet stuff under local rights.   All kept.

now wait a minute   I go to like 2-3 games a year come on now   Be fair lol   Usually one is in Anaheim btw

I assumed other teams kept theirs too and yeah it’s a mammoth deal. It basically bankrupted whoever signed it.  Fox sports  west?  La sportsnet ?   Yeah.  Don’t you remember all this?  And for years the dodgers collected the cash and weren’t even on tv?

whats funny to me is that they were allowed to go bk despite having this tv deal in their pocket.  And that mc court had to sell the team. Why when he was about to cash in like this?  This was a big if you remember.  Whatever companies owned channel 9 and 13 I think we’re also in on it  the bidding

 

as to them pocketing the 300 million for the last 15 years and not really doing anything until the last five? I don’t know. I guess I just assumed it was part of the operating costs of the team. I wasn’t sure if the numbers were actually real when I did the math but now all of a sudden 15 years later everybody’s talking about it and I confess I’m a little confused

[Java]

And to be very clear I totally agree. This is a Good not a great player. I am flabbergasted at $60 million a year for a good player. And here’s the amazing thing that that’s a minimum. If he does well he’s catching out and he’s going to go Use that 60 million as a floor to try to get a seven or 8 year deal.   And if he pulls a Michael Conforto, he’s gonna sit around with a 220 average and 15 home runs and collect $60 million

I just don’t get this deal at all

 

and when I read about him and what other people say about him, he sounds like Cody Bellinger the guy who is very talented left-handed outfielder lanky, but maybe doesn’t love baseball all that much and tends to perform only when he has to for a contract

[troystory]

$60m per year is a lot for Tucker. The Dodgers are using their financial might to fill the only holes they had last year: outfield and closer. This is a unique opportunity to cement a dynasty. I doubt this is their M.O. forever. It can’t be, CBA notwithstanding. You don’t want to eat all your operating income on non-superstars.

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