The Hate JJ McCarthy is Getting is Unwarranted

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- February 2, 2026 at 8:55 pm #9508
  
  PasadenaTrojan
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  Kid can play. He’s gonna work out if he can stay healthy.
  He can move. He can throw in pocket. He can throw on run.
  Hes an elite athlete. He looks accurate.
  
  the hate he gets is because he’s white. He’s “terrible” only applies to white dudes. When tan it’s the coaching it’s the talent around him it’s everything but the kid.
  
  Bust Sam Darnold is a case study in how nfl media works. He never sucked. His ecosystem did. But he got 110% of the blame. Kind of like JJ now.
  
  Another example. Caleb’s failings last year were eberflus’s fault even tho Caleb was about 50% completion with good WRers TEs and Running backs. And a good defense. Truth matter
  
  Sam had that ecosystem as a rookie he never leaves his first team
- February 2, 2026 at 9:40 pm #9512
  
  San Clemente
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  I never got the whole hype behind this kid in a the first place.
  
  I don’t care about the whole meditating thing. Whatever. Kids are kids.
  
  Always thought he was a system guy that does everything well. Camped and coached up. That’s it. He’s not a put the team on his shoulders kind of guy or a really all that great at anything.
  
  The hate comes from fans that had a real pro bowl guy in first with Cousins and then with Sam.
  
  Sam can make throws and see windows others just can’t. It’s called Talent. The only reason Sanka hates him was because he went pro early and he sees this as some kind of treason. But then again I can’t name a player he has ever liked. Always loves the coaches. Hates the players. I am sticking with some SC player stretched out his girlfriend in college, put a smile on her face and dumped him. who knows. sc
- February 2, 2026 at 9:43 pm #9513
  
  saturdaysarebetter
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  He’s good at handing the ball off. He’s nothing without Connor Stalions.
- February 2, 2026 at 9:54 pm #9514
  
  Java
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  In college he was a game manager who didn’t make mistakes. The Vikings were a very complete team on both sides of the ball who thought all they needed was a guy to manage the team on an affordable rookie contract and do what he did at Michigan.
  
  Looks like it didn’t work out that way. I didn’t see any of their games. But Caleb has done better than Sam early in his career because he’s avoided taking horrible shots. Seeing ghosts. And kept turnovers to a minimum. I wish I could make it more complicated, but if I did I’d lose you and Grocery stick. Writing it in crayon and very slowly is the best way for you two to hear it. You both have a rare ability to speak with confidence without disturbing the facts
  - February 2, 2026 at 11:20 pm #9518
    
    PasadenaTrojan
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    That’s why I posted this. He’s more than that. You’re echoing the taking heads. As usual. He’s way more than a game manager. Watch
  - February 3, 2026 at 8:18 pm #9551
    
    Java
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    I said that’s what he did at Michigan and that’s what’s they expected in Minnesota.
    
    I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you
  - February 3, 2026 at 9:19 pm #9559
    PasadenaTrojan
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    You don’t draft a guy #10 to hand off to a running back whose name you don’t know. Meaning their offense wasnt
    
    designed around someone named Adrian Peterson, Eric Dickerson, Sweetness or Barry Sanders.
    
    he was drafted to help win games. You know, play QB at a high level
    
    This reply was modified 3 weeks, 1 day ago by PasadenaTrojan.
  - February 3, 2026 at 9:33 pm #9564
    
    Java
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    I don’t think so. Was he a 10? Eh. Maybe as he gets older he will win games.
    
    Minnesota was good enough to do better than they did. He apparently failed.
    
    but I get the strategy. Denver is employing it right now. You get a young quarterback playing on an affordable contract making what? 4 million a year? So you can spend that money on other players to keep your overall roster strong. Even when Sam signed his deals, he was not that highly regarded and yet he was making 20 or 30 million a year. And the top quarterbacks are making 40 or 50 million a year that that’s just bananas
    
    so try to use a young cheap guy build out the rest of your roster and try to win while you can.
    
    windows are short in the NFL. I mean look at the Detroit Lions. They sucked for years and then they had a couple of years where you just felt like they were on the edge of the Super Bowl and now it appears they are slipping again
  - February 3, 2026 at 10:30 pm #9567
    PasadenaTrojan
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    That’s my point. Yes I think he will win some games and this high level of “hate” will be proven wrong
    
    he was #10 behind Caleb Jayden Daniels and Drake Maye.
    Bo Nix was after all of them. I don’t know what number.
    Hes outperformed his draft status. Impressively
    
    This reply was modified 3 weeks, 1 day ago by PasadenaTrojan.
  - February 4, 2026 at 1:09 am #9581
    
    mandb
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    JJ McCarthy had good talent and serious depth while at Michigan. He never looked like more than just a game manager to me.
    
    Make NFL money, get NFL hate. It is part of the deal. Don’t like it? Do something else.
  - February 2, 2026 at 11:21 pm #9520
    PasadenaTrojan
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    Caleb should thank the good Lord he didn’t land with 2018-2020 jets. He wouldn’t make it through that
    
    This reply was modified 3 weeks, 2 days ago by PasadenaTrojan.
  - February 3, 2026 at 8:20 pm #9552
    
    Java
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    Do you think 2018 sam or 2019 sam turns the beats around and takes them to the 2 seed and 2nd round of playoffs ? Of course you don’t.
    
    As an outsider, what are your views on intelligence?
  - February 3, 2026 at 9:21 pm #9561
    PasadenaTrojan
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    100% 2018-2019 Sam could do or exceed what Caleb has done in Chicago these last two years. Absolutely sure of it. But I understand talent. You don’t
    
    This reply was modified 3 weeks, 1 day ago by PasadenaTrojan.
  - February 4, 2026 at 2:05 am #9583
    
    Java
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    You understand scre3aming at the top of your lungs for 9 years and when Sam has a good one thinking you’re vindicated.
    
    Caleb has stepped right into the league.
    
    What we have seen is clear. Sam can join an already very good team and not screw it up. Which is what you ask mid round guys to do.
    
    Caleb has been a franchise savior, just what he was drafted for, and taken the worst team in the NFL to the 2nd round of the playoffs in his second year. I am happy for both of them.
    
    Keep spinning. At this point when you post about Sam you should just include my name in the subject line since I am the only chance of you getting any replies.
  - February 4, 2026 at 2:12 am #9584
    
    PasadenaTrojan
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    Oh man. This is gold. Only one spinning here is you.
    
    you thinking NYJ Sam and Chicago Caleb are same
    
    situations is like saying Hesperia is better then San Clemente. Oh wait. 🤦‍♂️
  - February 4, 2026 at 3:31 am #9588
    PasadenaTrojan
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    “Worst” team in the league Chicago went 7-10 the year before drafting Caleb? They picked #1 due to a draft swap the year before. Another great argument
    
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  - February 4, 2026 at 3:45 am #9592
    
    San Clemente
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    OUCH!!!!!!
    
    that one will leave a mark. sc
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