Java, what’s better? Allowing 14.8 ppg or 20.9 ppg plus being embarrassed by Duke.

"Clemson hasn't been the same since Venebles left".

Why yes. They were almost exactly the same.

So now your argument is that Venebles leaving had a major impact on Clemson. Which clearly it did not. But that he's a lousy coach because Oklahoma obviously had a terrible year in the same place Riley had success. But he. Coach blowin and goin. Is the second best coach in America because you previously said so

I'm just curious is being ranked 13 better than being 14? Or is that just not being the same ?

Is three losses, the same as three losses? Or is that just not being the same ?

Is 11 wins better than 10 wins? I am so confused I need your help

Is winning the conference championship game better than not being there at all? I realize that for UCLA found this is entirely hypothetical.

I think the best way to judge the impact of someone's absence is to measure their performance directly before they left, and the performance of the organization immediately after they left, don't you ?