Interesting tweet by J.A. Adande saying that in just 5 years Kareem (Alcindor) won 3 NCAA titles, 3x college player of the year, 3x tournament most outstanding player, a NBA championship, NBA MVP and finals MVP. Because of Kareem the NCAA outlawed the dunk and he went on to develop the unstoppable skyhook. That takes a while to sink in just incredible.
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10-15 years or so ago I got to know a limo driver. great guy. Ex convict. He told me his whole story. He was buddies with Darryl “I’ll Kill The Judge” Henley and is not a fan of his. He was in jail for that drug enterprise.
He had some great stories about “other“ famous clients (like me of course!) Loved the Yardhouse founders. But one time he asked me “how big of an ahole do you have to be for no ONE to say something nice about you??” He was talking about Kobe and said he had hundreds of stories of what a prick he actually was. He was at staples center all the time for work and said the staff there absolutely hated him. Kobe would accuse guys of joyriding his car and scratching it etc. sounds like the guy your nephew met.
There is the media creation Kobe and the one regular People actually met.
Kareem anecdote, I was business partners with a guy who had a sports memorabilia museum (Near USC in fact) Honus Wagner card, original Babe a Ruth uniform, replica polo grounds stadium, the best private collection, maybe the best collection on the west coast. Kareem called to ask for a private showing, which we obliged. Kareem did have a precondition for his visit. He asked that no one approach him or speak with him, other than the guide tour. so when he showed up, we all kinda looked at him from a distance thinking, “what a dick”. My partner invited me to come Over and say hi, but I declined. We all saw him walk by and pretended to not notice him.
It’s Jordan. Just ask Larry and Magic. They said So Btw.
Not sure who the GOAT would be. If we limit it to centers, I go with Russell. Chamberlain was a more freakish athlete, but Russell was a better overall basketball player. Big Lew would be in the Top 5.
Ever notice how the NBA has so few notable centers today? Think maybe that's one of the reasons the game sucks compared to what it once was?
Without question. He owns a Resume of resumes.
But topic of post was about being the GOAT.
He wasnt that....no shame in being “ONLY“ one of the all time greats. It’s called the HOF.
Abdul Jabbar was one of the very best centers to ever play the game. He got beat by other great centers during his career, but he also embarrassed them on other occasions.
I think winning 2 Finals MVP 14 years apart says a lot. He was as good in 1985 as he ever was as a youngster.
Moses Malone sure figured it out. Swept Kareem’s Lakers for a ring in ‘83. Kareem was very stiff. Bruce Lee exposed him. Yes this is a joke. Is what it is. Still he has a resume without compare. I respect that. Not saying he‘s overrated.
But I am saying he wasnt flawless. MJ was Flawless. That’s why he’s the Goat.
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Read it and weep....this dude breaks it down. And Hakeem sure did fine against Kareem in the 1986 Conference Finals sweep didn’t he??
I think that is a reasonable “argument” actually. Heck of a resume.
Hard to teach height Tho too. Especially in his era.
He also had no chance against stronger quicker dudes like Moses, Shaq (hypothetical) and Hakeem. but he got his too. That skyhook Was an amazing shot. Most dominant offensive move ever?