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1/16/2012 9:41:26 AM

By: GaryD

Jim Harbaugh...as a pro coach he is still a neophyte....and walked into a team in the 49ers that were set up for a good year. They were 8-8 three seasons ago but fell to 1-6 starting out the next year. They finished that one with 5-4 record for 6-10 overall. They had the nucleus and still do of a very good defensive team. They played in the weakest division of the NFC but also were a team that doesn't make mistakes, a Harbuagh team trademark.

Pete Carroll at seattle had taken over a terrible team that was a shables on both sides of the ball...he also got that team into the NFL second round that first year despite a bad QB. He has also taken a much less proficient defense team he inherited and mde it a top 10 D this year. But Harbuagh is offense minded but in college that wasn't the case much with Stanford his first 2 years (4-8, 5-7) until Andrew Luck took over at QB. Jim hadnt got Stanfordto .500 overall until year 4. Pete had USC in full gear by year 2..not year 4...A first year record is not sufficient to come to conclusons on a pro career IMO...

How Good is Harbaugh? (views: 318) -- Toss sweep (70.190.171.251) -- 1/16/12 07:28 AM
- Here's what can be said (views: 112) -- Tookie the Condor (108.3.147.118) -- 1/16/12 01:03 PM
- That's a good 2 cents... (views: 251) -- The Real Allen Wallace (68.109.82.164) -- 1/16/12 10:59 AM
  - Good post Allen, but... (views: 58) -- USCPAT (69.178.161.114) -- 1/16/12 04:56 PM
    - Yes, but Pete was responsible (views: 51) -- GTrojan (70.104.14.96) -- 1/16/12 05:05 PM
  - Well Said, but I don't see a super bowl (views: 90) -- Jake's Grievance (76.166.135.12) -- 1/16/12 11:42 AM
    - It all depends (views: 75) -- Toss sweep (70.190.171.251) -- 1/16/12 11:49 AM
      - Their last game went... (views: 41) -- GaryD (75.83.171.187) -- 1/16/12 04:26 PM
        As I said (views: 39) -- Toss sweep (70.190.171.251) -- 1/16/12 04:41 PM
  - Awesome take, Allen! (views: 113) -- LA Duck (76.115.168.101) -- 1/16/12 11:40 AM
    - I suspected... (views: 136) -- The Real Allen Wallace (68.109.82.164) -- 1/16/12 12:37 PM
      - A major factor in SC's downturn (views: 44) -- GTrojan (70.104.14.96) -- 1/16/12 04:59 PM
      - Thanks, Allen...was great to win the Rose Bowl (views: 44) -- LA Duck (76.115.168.101) -- 1/16/12 01:26 PM
- Dude is a winner (views: 71) -- D CLEATER (64.183.8.147) -- 1/16/12 10:48 AM
- Harbaugh has never won anything. EVER!!! He (views: 101) -- Fraud (71.139.11.131) -- 1/16/12 10:30 AM
  - Harbaugh won Calif State B-Ball Championship (views: 61) -- Hillside (76.200.170.175) -- 1/16/12 11:32 AM
  - Is Trent Dilfer a better QB than Marino? (views: 52) -- NYTrojan (147.177.113.180) -- 1/16/12 10:36 AM
- With no real offseason this year too (views: 64) -- NYTrojan (147.177.113.180) -- 1/16/12 09:46 AM
- I see it this way.... (views: 184) -- GaryD (75.83.171.187) -- 1/16/12 09:41 AM
  - Wow. Just wow (views: 13) -- AugustWest (98.148.63.53) -- 1/17/12 09:39 AM
  - Please Gary (views: 22) -- AVtrojan (75.38.21.117) -- 1/17/12 02:06 AM
  - The "D" stands for delusional (views: 39) -- SCSmashmouth (12.31.202.42) -- 1/16/12 02:26 PM
  - LMAO! More GaryDumb nonsense (views: 59) -- D CLEATER (64.183.8.147) -- 1/16/12 10:54 AM
  - It's always fun to be a contrarian (views: 175) -- Java (71.95.243.46) -- 1/16/12 10:04 AM
    - Really? Certifiably insane? (views: 52) -- GaryD (75.83.171.187) -- 1/16/12 01:42 PM
    - Pete couldn't have failed without the rah rahs (views: 54) -- San Clemente (70.181.99.153) -- 1/16/12 12:43 PM
      - While you were right, no way you (views: 45) -- NEB4USC (207.199.255.29) -- 1/16/12 01:52 PM
        sure you could. (views: 35) -- San Clemente (70.181.99.153) -- 1/16/12 02:46 PM
        The threat to fire would be an empty (views: 41) -- NEB4USC (207.199.255.29) -- 1/16/12 02:53 PM
    - post of the new year (views: 76) -- NEB4USC (207.199.255.29) -- 1/16/12 10:49 AM
      - Azzzz--kiss of the new year... (views: 66) -- Zorba (68.5.227.77) -- 1/16/12 10:56 AM
        I second that... (views: 50) -- GaryD (75.83.171.187) -- 1/16/12 11:46 AM
        don't you ever get tired (views: 43) -- NEB4USC (207.199.255.29) -- 1/16/12 01:32 PM
        You sure arent... (views: 34) -- GaryD (75.83.171.187) -- 1/16/12 01:35 PM
        Nothing to rebut. My facts speak (views: 37) -- NEB4USC (207.199.255.29) -- 1/16/12 01:39 PM
        How about UCLA running off its players? (views: 68) -- NEB4USC (207.199.255.29) -- 1/16/12 10:58 AM
        I have several times (views: 54) -- Zorba (68.5.227.77) -- 1/16/12 11:29 AM
    - Wait a minute (views: 70) -- Toss sweep (70.190.171.251) -- 1/16/12 10:20 AM
      - Losing staff is only half the problem (views: 56) -- NYTrojan (147.177.113.180) -- 1/16/12 10:22 AM
  - pravda still has your final paycheck (views: 57) -- tokyo_cigar (173.55.176.138) -- 1/16/12 10:00 AM
- VERY good (views: 66) -- AugustWest (98.148.63.53) -- 1/16/12 09:33 AM
- too soon to say. Technically, (views: 108) -- NEB4USC (207.199.255.29) -- 1/16/12 09:16 AM
  - Harbaugh hasn't won ANYTHING? (views: 60) -- LA Duck (76.115.168.101) -- 1/16/12 11:30 AM
    - No MNC, no HT, didn't win the Pac (views: 31) -- NEB4USC (207.199.255.29) -- 1/16/12 02:01 PM
  - Excuse me (views: 48) -- Toss sweep (70.190.171.251) -- 1/16/12 10:23 AM
    - Did JH inherit a HT winner and a sure (views: 60) -- NEB4USC (207.199.255.29) -- 1/16/12 10:32 AM
      - Your talking about the Trojan (views: 42) -- Toss sweep (70.190.171.251) -- 1/16/12 10:55 AM
        Pete also had Fargas RSing on the (views: 47) -- NEB4USC (207.199.255.29) -- 1/16/12 11:01 AM
        Bull Puckey (views: 41) -- Toss sweep (70.190.171.251) -- 1/16/12 11:53 AM
        bull. Fargas was heavily recruited (views: 30) -- NEB4USC (207.199.255.29) -- 1/16/12 01:38 PM
  - Unmm SC was nowhere for PC and LK (views: 59) -- trojanmikey (72.129.90.77) -- 1/16/12 10:05 AM
  - Neb I am going to make a prediciton... (views: 90) -- GaryD (75.83.171.187) -- 1/16/12 09:48 AM
    - Who cares? (views: 71) -- Java (71.95.243.46) -- 1/16/12 10:09 AM
  - Spot on, good post! *** (views: 21) -- AugustWest (98.148.63.53) -- 1/16/12 09:35 AM

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